When I started researching the history of F.E. Olds and Son over 20 years ago, there was very
little known about the early years of this company.  I interviewed several former employees but
was unable to get any specific dates of model introductions much less exact serial numbers.  With
the little information that I had and making a few guesses, I put together a few serial numbers
with dates.  When two pre-war catalogs came to light, I made guesses as to their dates.  When
others became interested in Olds history they added to what I had done.  These were all honest
attempts at adding to our knowledge, but unfortunately my early errors were magnified rather
than minimized.  This was becoming more apparent in the last couple of years, especially when
Dale Olson started combing through some of his archives and came up with production or
shipping records of some of the earliest Olds trumpets.  I decided that we were overdue for a
careful look at all the data that we had.  I put together all of the relevant information from Dale
Olson as mentioned, Alan Rouse of
Olds Central, Eric Hamlin of The Olds Register and known
catalogs in various collections.  The following is what I have come up with.  Please contact me
with any additions and corrections.

Some known dates stated below may be production or shipping dates and others are sales dates.  
Some are guesses based on models shown in catalogs, using earliest known examples.  The rest
are guesses based on rational analysis of production increases.  The catalog that we previously
dated 1930 or 1931 is
after 1933 based on reference to Radio City Music Hall which opened that
year.  The catalog that was previously thought to be about 1930 (because I had guessed that a
slightly later catalog was about 1932) is actually
after the 1935 patent (applied and granted that
year) covering the fluted trombone slide tubes that are introduced therein.  Another catalog is
actually dated 1939 and  shows the Radio model cornet but still does not introduce the Super
Recording trumpet and cornet.  Please let me know of any other data that will increase the
correctness of this list.  An early 1945 date would be especially useful.  The last date below is
based on
Uan Rasey's memory of getting his Recording model trumpet during his first year at
MGM.  As more instruments are entered in The Olds Register database we can make more
connections.  For instance, I know that the
Recording cornet was redesigned in January of 1948
but the earliest that we know of so far is 53,871 and I'm guessing that it was made a year or so
later and we will find earlier examples in the future.  Please enter all of your Olds trumpets and
cornets into
The Olds Register database so we can all learn more.

A serial number list from 1952 until the end of production was provided by Olds in the 1970s and
has been included in the Allied Supply catalog since then is still believed to be completely accurate.

1928                                1
Aug. 29, 1929                  150
1930                                175
1931                                285
Jan. 4, 1932                     396
1933                               700
Jan. 1, 1934                     1228
Apr. 20, 1935                   2019
1936                                2700
1937                                3600
1938                                4700
1939                                6000
1940                                7500
Sept. 30, 1941                  9626
May, 1942                       14,005
July, 1946                        15,996
Aug. 14, 1947                  18,501
1949                                52,409
Olds Serial Numbers and Dates
For trumpets and cornets
Updated Aug. 2010